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Circumcision - its effects - Dragon - 08-03-2012
With no_escapes permission I've moved this out of another thread to a thread of its own.
Sounds awful. I was thinking about making a thread about circumcision. About two years ago I learned what it was and started researching obsessively (since I am circumcised, why did no one tell me what was done)? I've found a lot of interesting links about the possible psychological effects of it. There's no doubt it is extremely traumatic. I've tried watching videos of the procedure and it is unbearable to hear the screams of pain from the child, who is strapped down by his wrists and ankles to keep from struggling. I think it's very possible that it can cause PTSD. Here's all the links I've bookmarked about the psychology of it:
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/317/7169/1346
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/06/prweb41148.htm
http://www.menweb.org/circtom.htm
http://www.norm-uk.org/circumcision_psychological_effects.html
http://foreskin-restoration.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7526
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/levy1/
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/rhinehart1/
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/
http://www.cirp.org/library/pain/taddio2/
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/brackbill/
A man who's suffered nightmares all his life, attributes it to his circumcision. It sounds kind of similar to what you describe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mngp8mrNg&feature=plcp
Also a Grief section of a message board for men who are trying to restore their foreskins:
http://foreskin-restoration.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=61
Re: Circumcision - its effects - Dragon - 08-03-2012
Thanks guy, I've read a few of these, some before and a couple now.
It's amazing what the effects of early life trauma can be and as they're finding out now we can "remember" that trauma.
His references in this post are sometimes to my original post in "http://www.chronicsuicidesupport.com/index.php?topic=2477.0"
Re: Circumcision - its effects - Lurker.In.The.Night - 08-03-2012
What? No anesthesia?
Re: Circumcision - its effects - nightsong - 08-03-2012
Sadly, nowadays even if there is anesthesia they don't wait for it to be fully in effect before performing the surgery. :-(
Re: Circumcision - its effects - Lurker.In.The.Night - 08-04-2012
(08-03-2012, 10:32 PM)nightsong link Wrote: Sadly, nowadays even if there is anesthesia they don't wait for it to be fully in effect before performing the surgery. :-(
o_O that's bizarre!
Re: Circumcision - its effects - Dragon - 08-04-2012
(08-03-2012, 09:24 PM)Lurker.In.The.Night link Wrote: What? No anesthesia?No, because it was thought that the nerve endings in a postnatal child weren't developed enough to feel pain, My question of that is "If he doesn't feel any pain, then why is he screaming his bloody head off"
Re: Circumcision - its effects - Lurker.In.The.Night - 08-11-2012
(08-04-2012, 09:35 AM)Dragon link Wrote: \"If he doesn't feel any pain, then why is he screaming his bloody head off\"Valid question. :nja:
Re: Circumcision - its effects - Lurker.In.The.Night - 11-22-2012
I'm not even going to watch that video. *shudders*
Re: Circumcision - its effects - nightsong - 12-06-2012
(12-06-2012, 12:56 AM)no_escape link Wrote: Do I have any right to feel violated, outraged and wronged? Many Americans would say no, and that I should be ashamed of myself.Yes, you do have the right to feel violated, outraged, and wronged. You should NOT be ashamed of yourself. Instead the parents (including myself) who made an uneducated decision to circumcise their child should be ashamed. I certainly am. :'(
Re: Circumcision - its effects - nightsong - 12-06-2012
(12-06-2012, 12:56 AM)no_escape link Wrote: it was the doctors job to educate you, and they have no business even recommending circumcision in the first place.
Sadly, I can't even claim that there was a doctor involved in any consultation. As we were going through the hospital tour and preregistration process, they just gave us a form to fill out and it was a standard question on the form- if you child is a boy, do you want him circumcised? Circle yes or no. I looked at hubby, asked him, he said yeah, so I circled it. End of story, no thought or education involved. One of those culturally engrained ideas that I didn't even question until later when I came into contact with some intactivists and became more educated. :-(